SATURN IN GEMINI: Thoughts are things; clarity of responsibility; feeling trapped by expectations.
*Work on the Love Petals in dealing with people.
Saturn in Gemini:
Venus is the esoteric ruler of The Twins and her energy blends with Saturn in this placement. The Soul-centered purpose is for the individual to become an agent for the Law of Right Human Relationships. There is a need to understand mutual responsibilities in relationship and to use the mind as a loving tool of communication. The achievement of harmonious relationships is very much the goal. In this respect, an individual with Saturn in Gemini (especially if afflicted to Venus in the natal chart) may experience a certain sense of restriction in his or her ability to communicate. The dualities and crises in one’s relationships are but the training ground for the wider communicative aspirations of the Soul.
Esoteric Saturn
www.lynnkoiner.com/astrolog...ic-saturn
Esoteric Saturn
The horoscope should be read at 2 levels:
1. The growth and unfolding of the Personality
2. The growth and unfolding of the Soul
Capricorn/Saturn represent the densest point of concrete materialization of which the human Soul is capable of experiencing.
Saturn represents “The Dweller on the Threshold” – in facing this Dweller, we face our past and our fears. Capricorn, as a sign, fears losing control, dependency and feeling helpless; this is the loss of trust, trust in the Higher Self.
1. The Saturn Sign is your personal Dweller in this lifetime
2. The House position is Where you will face the Dweller
a. The House is where you are forced to work out your Karma
In a distant past when there were only 10 signs in the Zodiac, Capricorn represented the highest to which a man could aspire.
In Atlantis, the door was opened for Man to enter the 5th Kingdom-– the Aquarius and Pisces were added to the zodiac. These signs represent Service to Humanity as a member of or working with the 5th Kingdom, the World Server and the World Savior.
KMT wrote about a point in human history, back in old Atlantis, when the Door was opened for man to enter into the 5th Kingdom of Souls, to the realm of the Adepts. It seems that there was a Great Cosmic Crisis in another pat of the Universe that required many of the 5th Kingdom Masters to vacate their posts. At this point, Man was allowed to aspire to fill these positions and, I feel, that this is when the 2 signs of Aquarius and Pisces were added.
NOTE: Sirius, at 13 Cancer, is the home of the Hierarchy, the Borw Chakra of a Great Galactic Entity and the Heart Chakra of a Galactic Entity— Beings in which we live, move and have our existence— Hylozoism. This Star Chakra is where the Great Plan is formulated and carried out. Interestingly, as we are in a Ray II Solar System, Love-Wisdom, those with this Fixed Star prominent are extremely humanitarian and it represents a Socialistic form of government. Sirius is also the Heart Chakra of another system, hence, it represents both love and will energies.
In Cancer, NORTH, is where the Soul first enters that Center called Humanity. esoteric astrologers all say that Cancer was the sign of the first human incarnation; Capricorn and working with Saturn is the Gateway to the Hierarchy. Aries and Libra represent the Aspect of Consciousness created through the interplay between Spirit and Matter.
Capricorn represents the Best and the Worst of Humanity. Through Saturn, its exoteric and esoteric ruler, it can be greedy, selfish and materialistic (lack of trust and the trust to love) yet all World Servers are born under Capricorn.
SATURN, as ruler of Capricorn, forces up to deal with the glamor and illusions represented by the Moon in our horoscope. The Moon is said to represent the Prison of the Soul which has us cling to our past. The Moon rules feelings, emotions, desires that APPEAR to be reality but they are not. The Moon rules our past, past conditioning, the conditioning of our emotions and it is the emotions of the Mother that we absorb as our own. The Moon influences us through the Solar Plexus and the astral body – it makes us feel high, it makes us feel low; it makes us feel loved, it makes us feel unworthy. It whips us around is a maelstrom of emotion. It all seems so real but it is only the Glamor of this World.
Saturn rules boundaries, limitations, the rules and our societal dictations, NO, DON’T and CAN’T. It makes the things of the physical appear to be all that there is. Neptune dissolves our boundaries, the boundary of the etheric web, the seal to other dimensions. However, in going through these other dimensions, you must quickly pass through purgatory…the astral plane and the lower mental plane, before we finally reach the realm of the Causal Body…and, in the scheme of things, even this is not that high up.
When we ultimately enter the 5th Kingdom of the Hierarchy, Venus replaces Saturn – ruling the Higher Mind, intelligent and transpersonal love that aspires for the good of the Whole.
The symbol for Capricorn is in reality the Dragon, the Dragon of Wisdom and the Mind of the Soul. In the Secret Doctrine, it is stated that, in the constellation of Capricorn, reside the 5th Hierarchy of Spirits who are commissioned to stimulate the Mind in Man. Remember, it is 18 million years ago that the Lords of Flame came from Venus to bring the Spark of Mind to animal man. It was 1 million years ago that the seeds of the Aryan Root Race were first planted in Central Europe.
The 1000 Petaled Lotus:
1. Knowledge Petals ruled by Taurus, Leo and Scorpio
2. Love Petals ruled by Gemini, Virgo and Sagittarius
3. Sacrifice Petals ruled by Aries, Cancer and Libra (even Cancer is the sacrifice to incarnate), sacrificing the lesser for the greater. Example of student.
4. Initiation Petals are ruled by Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 8:29 PM
"Saturn in Gemini is a strong placement, for it deepens the mind, supports concentration, and removes some of the superficiality otherwise associated with Gemini. The test here is to learn to have faith and a positive attitude. You'd make a good teacher.
You might need to overcome patterns of negative thinking."
Esoteric Saturn
Saturn and the Earth have a very close relationship as they are both planets associated with the nature of the Third Ray of Active Intelligence. Mercury has a great deal to do with the movement of the mind and the communication of our thoughts, but it is Saturn which is the planet that governs the patterns and structures of those thoughts. Saturn is the crystallization of mental energy so that the action of the Active Intelligence of Divinity many manifest in the physical world on Earth. It is on our planet that the karma of our solar system consolidatesinto physical form. So does the opportunity for the purification of that karma and the eventual upliftment of both humanity and the planet upon which we live.
As the Tibetan Master might say at this point, “Ponder on this”.
The position of Saturn in the signs is indicative of several major factors:
* The Ray of the sign will point to what qualities a person may be inhibiting or surpressing on the personality level. Saturn is well positioned in Gemini (Ray II) for example, may indicate that the Second Ray principles of Love/Wisdom can be used very successfully to communicate thoughts that bring people into a greater sense of mutual understanding.
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 8:33 PM
Saturn in the ninth house
www.myastrologybook.com/Saturn...use.htm
The ninth house is where we search for truth: experiences that broaden the mind and help us form our philosophy of life. Here we expand our consciousness, synthesize meaning from facts and experience, adjust personal attitudes to collective ideas, and understand how things are integrated into systems. This house rules higher education, religious and ethical understanding, spiritual visions, in-laws, long journeys, law and the higher courts. Here is what remains of the purification that took place in the Eighth house: its seed or essence.
"Religion" comes from the Latin "re-," back + "ligare," to bind, hence, "to bind back," and thus refers to all things that last or endure, such as the truth. Many planets in the ninth are usually an indication of being unwilling to accept the conventional limits within which we were raised.
The ninth house is that one-twelfth sector of the local sky clockwise from the Midheaven occupied by planets two hours after they culminate.
The ninth house is one of Saturn's best house positions, for here it stabilizes and makes practical your religious and philosophical ideas. You need to persevere in pursuing the education and knowledge you personally need for your long haul. Teaching, publishing and science are good careers. Religion, philosophy, and truth are essential to your life; you're painstaking and deliberate in sorting through what is lasting and solid for you. -
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 8:34 PM
Saturn the Gatekeeper in Esoteric Astrology
www.btinternet.com/~seamaid...aturn.htm
Saturn is representative of the Law of Economy on all levels of the personality. It is not an agent of deprivation, as much as it is a testing ground to prove a person’s level of maturity and responsibility in dealing with what he has learned or achieved.
Saturn, is the Lord of Karma. He stands at the Gates of Initiation ready to put all who approach to the test.
Another term for Saturn is ~Dweller on the Threshold~. This is another of Saturn’s many titles, duties and responsibilities in the unfolding of the Path. As such, Saturn represents the crystalisation of the past, so that ~debts~ may be paid and one may undertake present opportunities for the future.
~Opportunity~ is one of the most descriptive words that can be applied to Saturn, as he offers those crises and life situations that bestow conscious freedom of choice. It is through our restrictions, and the pain which often accompanies thwarted desires or aspirations, that we come to a greater comprehension of the Laws of Manifestation. The structure and administration of these Laws are also under the rulership of Saturn.
Eventually, through the opportunities Saturn gives us, we have balanced a great deal of past karma and have reached a place where conscious choices becomes an actual possibility. At this point the choices we have to make for our evolutionary advancement become clear to our wakening eyes. We know that if we accept the work and service in front of us, we shall be tested. Yet our vision encourages us to shoulder some of the collective burden for advancing humanity and the expression of Love/Wisdom in the world. Saturn’s house position will reveal where our dharma/duty lies in this respect and where we may expect tests of restriction and self discipline to arise.
Once these tests are taken and passed - once the Path of Discipleship has been achieved - the very advanced individual passes onto the Cardinal Cross where, it is said, ~Saturn cannot follow men~ Once human consciousness has reached this initiate state, the Laws of human Karma have been learned and incorporated into oneself and the ~gate~ which Saturn guards and protects has swung open.
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 8:37 PM
Saturn; Your Own Security
astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/...15363cb8
Saturn: Lord of Karma and its Function in your Chart
www.alanoken.com/docs/saturn.htm
Saturn in Gemini is born for brilliance.
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:21 PM
Mars opposition Saturn
www.astrologyweekly.com/astrol...urn.php
Astrology aspects - Mars opposition Saturn The opposition between Mars and Saturn indicates some conflict between your desires and your sense of responsibility. You alternate between moments of intense activity and periods when you cannot seem to gather the energy to accomplish anything. Your temperament is either aggressive or completely apathetic. You find it difficult to maintain a moderate position that would allow you to achieve your goals without 'highs' and 'lows'. You are the only obstacle in your path to achievement. You need to become self-disciplined in using your energy constructively, and you must establish goals within your reach. Resolve firmly that you will not let feelings of futility keep you from reaching them.
You tend to be awed by the accomplishments of your associates or competitors, probably because you give them greater credit than they deserve. You desperately need competition so you can evaluate your own worth; ignorance of your capabilities is your greatest liability. The chances are that others will always have a higher opinion of your potential than you, and you will need to be reassured that your talents are genuine.
Once you get over the idea of your unworthiness, you can go far. You must like yourself enough to feel that you deserve the success you can achieve, but you will have to assert yourself. You could find some expression in law enforcement, industrial engineering, military service, conservation, or physical therapy. Initially, you would probably work best alone, until you can convince yourself that you could make a significant contribution in your field. Later, you could work satisfactorily with others without feeling threatened by their competence. You tend to establish goals somewhat out of reach, which makes you unhappy with your accomplishments. It would be better for you to grow into higher levels of responsibility by taking one step at a time. In that way, your current security is never jeopardized.
Your personal and romantic relationships never measure up to your expectations. Your desires always seem to be frustrated or to encounter great difficulties. The phrase 'After you get what you want, you don't want it' is descriptive of your feelings in these relationships. In any case, it is doubtful that your desires will be fulfilled to your satisfaction, and some denial is to be expected.
Moderation is necessary in all your affairs, or physical depletion can result. Rest is very important in order to maintain physical well-being. Accidents resulting in fractures are common with this planetary combination, as are problems affecting the joints, such as arthritis and bursitis. Moderate exercise is helpful if you get sufficient rest. -
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 10:03 AMGod Star,
thanks for all the wonderful information that you posted :-)... Wow! it is a lot to digest and wrap my brain around. hmmm... i will try to articulate an intelligent response... lol ... with neptune in the third house i sometimes find it difficult to get my point across with just words... also tribe keeps booting me :-(
this is what i have noticed about Saturn in 9th house... what i have grasped from experience is that this placement is about trusting yourself, trusting what you know even if you dont have a collection of hard facts to back it up.... not getting bogged down with the details, but to trust your judgement & to not doubt yourself; and it has never been everyone is better than me ... it is something more than that, but yet so simple... it's about just trusting what you know kinda but cant explain.. maybe it is intuiton, symbolism, or reading between the lines... but the answers are always there... all i need is quite... but there is a lot going on with Saturn so i could be describing more than saturns house placement.
in the first article it was stated that Saturn deals with the glamour and illusions of the Moon... this is interesting since these 2 planets rule my Moon Nodes. i never realized the connection between these 2 planets and further meditation on it will give me better insight into the Capricorn/Cancer NN/SN axis; plus Moon sextile Saturn are both semi-sextile North Node and inconjunct South Node.
also Sirius is at 13 cancer in my natal chart, my midheaven is at 12 cancer and South Node 17 cancer (node may have too big of an orb). i never really knew much about Sirius so i think i am going to do a bit of research
i can really relate to the Mars Saturn opposition. I definitely have a stop and go kind of energy, as well as a fluctuation of a positive to negative outlook. what i have noticed in my life is without some kind of focus/goal i will drift. once i have a plan it is full speed ahead, and not much is going to stop me.
thanx as always,
makaranda
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 5:00 AMThe Ninth House is the third Fire or Dharma House. This is a Jyotish interpretation by Robert E. Svoboda:
Many desirbale meanings associated with elevated things apply to the ninth, tenth and eleventh houses of the horoscope, the highest points in the heavens as seen at the moment of birth. They represent crowning achievement, the acme of perfection. The ninth house is generally associated with good luck and fortune, an association which compounded by its being a house of dharma. the ninth house yields elegant and rightful prosperity and succes that seem aptly bestowed awards for previous efforts.
The Ninth is most important, by being the most advanced, of the dharma houses, so here dharma is applied in a purer, more spirtual way. (electrical fire) Being a reflection of the third house, but higher in the zodiac and the sky, the ninth house stand both for purity of mind and for religion, which is supposed to purify the soul. this higher reflection of third-house matters also applies to travel for, the ninth house being further along in the zodiac, it represents more and further travel and travel which is undertaken for higher purposes. like satsange ('contact with the true')
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 5:18 AMTHE NINTH HOUSE:
Tradtional: Soul-centered
Long Journeys --- The Path
Religion and Philosphy --- The Ancient Wisdom Teachings, Dharma, Gnosis
Differing orthodoxies ---- Unification of all belief systems; synthesis of all religions, philosphies
Higher Education ---- Mental permanent atom; Higher Mind, The Guru
Legal activities ---- Knowledge of the Cosmic Law, Prophecy, Oracles
Publishing ---- The Akashic records
Look at the associations between Mercury, Venus and Saturn for interplay of meaning.
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 5:25 AMNinth House - The Temperance Card:
The penetration and expansion of the conscious mind into the unknown (subconscious) realm of Life's potential is possible and available through Temperance (The emergence of the Higher Mind) The Middle Path = Awareness.
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Re: Saturn in Gemini: born for brilliance
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 5:38 AMAny planet in Nine signifies an advanced expression of inidividuality, a culmination of the tremendous revelation in the first, the steady sovereignity of the fifth: the Ninth takes the achievements of self-expression and offers it on the altar of universal consciouness through the application of the higher mind.
The planet occupying this house shows how this urge for universality is manifested in the persons psychological make up. The exo- and eso ruler and their strength of interplay and postion show how steady and aware ones steps are on the path.
Saturn in this House urges the person for a very concentrated and disciplined effort to connect with and express universal values, not only on a human level but on a wholistic level. Teachings and methods for gaining awareness of higher realities are revealed by sign, ray of cusp and rulers and degee symbol.
Saturn again, will focus on the real in a very 'rational' way which will not exclude intuition and mystic experience but will surely test anything that comes up in this regard being sceptical yet open to everyting (Gemini). As mentioned earlier Gemini and Capricorn are strongly linked through Mercury, Venus, the fifth kingdom and Earth.
This is a link to a site that gives the esoterical interpretation of planets in signs, it's the best I encountered so far:
www.makara.us/04mdr/01wri...c.htm#saturn
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